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February 4th, 2019, 2:50 pm

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I like the colors on this one.

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February 5th, 2019, 2:45 pm

Songdog

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@Metis: Do you...want the page where it confirms that she and Fen had sex? Fen did tell Rig he thought having another buck be the father was a better option but there's multiple times in the story that confirm Fen is the father, biologically. If he wasn't, yes it's accepted that whoever raises the fawn counts as the parents. But it also gets pointed out multiple times Fen would have been the biological father. I can find the pages numbers if you want?



I....can't say I conflate "going out to live a normal deer life" as being a "life of partying". I don't, see the connection there at all honestly. She didn't live a wild crazy live with the Morhinds; that was the point. She got to live out what normal deer life was like, something she has missed out on. That was kind of the whole point.

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February 4th, 2019, 2:59 pm

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I love how supportive Deadwood is towards Rig right now. It's so sweet <3

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February 4th, 2019, 6:00 pm

MouseWithADinosaurTail

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Poor Rig. ;A;

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February 4th, 2019, 6:39 pm

Frost Fox (Guest)

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Deadwood makes everything about itself.

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February 4th, 2019, 9:17 pm

LordOfPandemonium21

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Aww poor rig... she just want to know why, but deadwood is tryin to get her mind off of it

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February 4th, 2019, 9:45 pm

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Deadwood made this situation about itself, but I do kinda see the concern that it has for Rig.

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February 4th, 2019, 10:09 pm

Metis (Guest)

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Uh... to all those saying otherwise... Deadwood hasn't made this about himself at all.

He showed genuine concern about her miscarriage - the "I was afraid of this" statement on the previous page shows that he had genuine concern that not all was well with Rig. In spite of the fact she ran off, went partying (and presumably had sex with) with a bunch of other deer, and came back carrying extra life he undoubtedly was helping provide the energy for, then after she provided meager fare per their deal... he has let her try to recover after her miscarriage, and is showing a remarkable amount of care for being a DEMON. He knows she needs to begin the process of moving on. Rig was only motivated to move when prompted that she was still his minion. No, Deadwood didn't make this about himself. He used it as spurs to get Rig back on her feet.

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February 5th, 2019, 4:39 am

Songdog

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@Metis: Okay wait what about her presumably having lots of sex with random other deer?

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February 5th, 2019, 10:54 am

Metis (Guest)

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@Songdog: Didn't you imply the deer in this comic do not take mates in all cases? Fen has also seemed to be more than willing for a different buck to be the father for the sake of a stronger fawn. Dunno if this is intended to mirror in a way what goes on in the wild, but does typically breed with multiple bucks. You left it kinda ambiguous if Fen is the father by the conversation with him about other bucks. I can see how my phrasing could be conflated to say that she had sex with multiple deer, but seeing as how Fen is included in that other deer group she went off and partied with... She clearly wasn't playing tiddlywinks for funsies if she came back pregnant. Immaculate conception? Yeah... no.

For those of you crying slut shaming at me... they are deer. Real deer do not feel the way that we do, and the make-believe deer in this comic indeed have different breeding systems and think and feel differently that people(or so it is implied - applying prey values to something sapient is tricky, at best). I am sure consent could be a real sticky wicket here if we get into discussions about breeding cycles. She still broke her agreement to go off and party - drugs, sex, and rock and roll, I think the phrase is? You wanna take my comment out of the context that she was off having a rip-roaring good time? Sure. Do that. You already have. No shame in having a good time, but she has a piper to pay for that.

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February 5th, 2019, 12:34 pm

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@Metis: Look, I am not trying to disrespect the author by starting drama, that is not my intention, but comments like yours are...troubling. It's not just conflation/out of context, there is no OTHER way to interpret what you said, the implication is clear: "The victim deserves the abuse for trying to escape her victimhood and live the life she desperately craves." I'm not "crying" anything, if you don't want people to complain about slut-shaming a deer, maybe don't bring it up as a reason she deserves to be tortured by a goddanged demon?! Walking it back by pointing out she's not a human isn't helping when you're the one anthropomorphizing her actions to "partying" when what she was doing was trying to live as a normal deer for once in her miserable life. What is the point of living when you don't get to live?
I understand why you're feeling defensive, I'm just pointing out how your comment comes off, and it's not because I'm too stupid to understand. You prefer the villain, and you will justify that by making Rig out to be "just as bad". And she has done bad things, but trying to have a life or as you put it "partying" is not one of them.

Criminy, I'm not asking the author to change the story to make Rig happy. The drama of the story is what makes it a fascinating read to begin with.

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February 5th, 2019, 1:40 pm

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@AmyOf Darkness: In the interest of what appears to be brewing drama, here is my response to this.

I am having trouble with your point of view. Here is why... in the scope of this being a classic "don't make deals with the devil" kinds of story, we have a deer who came and begged a demon to save her, and restore her to life. The tree ultimately did so, for unknown reasons, and when restored to life, the tree asked her to fill the soil. How many times did she say "I commit to this task" in the beginning of the story? I don't remember. At least twice. In short, she entered into a contract with this demon to keep her alive. Deadwood also told her to stay in his forest or his powers wouldn't keep her alive. So, here is Rig, bringing him rabbits, and other things to sustain him. He never orders her to bring him other deer, but lets her know the option is always open. Rig meets another deer, falls in love. She asks Deadwood to allow her to save him, but then decided to take off on him, ignoring the fact she is on a contract, and that her good time is on Deadwoods dime. Now, for a demon... that's a particularly nice gesture, and up until this point he has been patient, even understanding. Hell, he even appears to be understanding about the miscarriage, especially after he reveals how he's been burning energy to keep her sickness at bay. Does Rig deserve the abuse? No, but as you say, it's an interesting read, and why I am on Deadwoods side (so far) is because to me Rig has rather abundantly ignored the basic stipulations and boundaries of her agreements. In real life, if you ignore the terms of a binding contract, there are legal ramifications. In this story, we see Deadwoods abuse as the cost of her ignoring that she had a contract to honor. Would this be right in real life? Hell no. There's laws about what may and may not be in a contract.

There. What I see, and what I think cut and dry, no frills. I do not think either Deadwood or Rig is a villain (yet), though I do think Deadwood has yet to show his full hand - if he's supposed to be evil there is a certain oddness to his actions that just don't add up. He is acting very curiously when all the factors are summed up, and I am interested in seeing where it goes. No drama here.

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February 5th, 2019, 6:17 am

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I still firmly stand by my thought that this was intentional. Though three days sulking/depression seems to worry deadwood. He won’t give her any other answers besides “hey don’t think about it.” On an unrelated note; a previous comment said she was sleeping around? When??? She was only with/interested in Fen....pages to support the claim?

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February 5th, 2019, 7:23 am

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@Metis genuine concern for his food slave. Let's remember he is torturing her with a painful disease everynight so she does not get any ideas about pursuing her own happiness again. His compassion has always been a tool to manipulate. Do you really think Deadwood was trying to help her have a child? A child would have only further taken Rig's attention away from itself. Deadwood has shown little appetite for such things. It slew her friend to punish and isolate Rig already, why would it change its tune now? Fill the soil has ever been it's one refrain.

Also no way she has been having random deer sex, she has a beloved.

@Skeletalwidow Great point and well said.

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February 5th, 2019, 8:30 am

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Whooaaa now it's come to slut-shaming a deer in addition to abuse apologism in the audience! Rig is a victim, even if she made an unwise choice in her desperation, does not mean she "deserves" the abuse. Of course Deadwood ACTS sweet now, that is Abuser 101. That is how abusers keep their victims bound to them. They isolate them from others who can help, they feign concern, they gaslight and make them question their worth and reality. They even apologize for things they aren't even remotely sorry for. And the bystanders will go "Why aren't you forgiving them? They only beat you when you deserved it. They only used you for their selfish gain because you let them, it is your fault they are mad at you again. It is your fault they are hurting you again" I don't buy for one hot second that Deadwood sincerely cares about Rig's misfortune, only that her self-pity is blocking the food from coming in. It's one thing to love to hate how indescribably evil a villain is, quite another to be sympathizing with it. What I see here a lot is sympathy for the devil and little consideration for the victim in an incredibly toxic relationship. And no, the idea that she somehow "knew what she was getting into" does not mean she deserves this cruelty.

That aside, this comic has been consistently one of my most favorite, it is a fascinating read, and I think I care more about the characters in this than any other webcomic in my reading list currently! Fantastic work, Songdog!

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February 5th, 2019, 11:12 am

Frost Fox (Guest)

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@metis I don't get what context it is supposed to be taken in. The deer have been shown to only breed with the reigning buck of the herd. The ladies have been shown to be disdainful of random bucks trying to slip in for a hook up. I just feel like you comments make assumptions unsupported by what we have seen of the deer's society and sexuality. Rig seemed more like she was seeking simple comfort and emotional support not going on a nonstop wild party. If the comic suggested deer like to trist and this happened all the time it would be a very different matter. I just don't get where the idea of girl gone wild Rig comes from. She is a lonely girl not a party girl from what we have seen so far unless I missed a page somewhere which showed otherwise.

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February 5th, 2019, 11:24 am

Frost Fox (Guest)

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Also thanks for at least clearing up your view point. I am confused where you got that idea and disagree but at least now I understand your train of thought in the events of the story.

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February 5th, 2019, 12:36 pm

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This is honestly a very interesting point in the story. On one hand, deadwood is manipulative and abusive, and so I'm inclined to oppose anything it wants, but on the other hand, the way he's treating Rig at the moment is oddly tender and caring. Like, I could see how it wants to benefit from her loss and her being alive, but it also seems to genuinely feel for her in some way, hinted when it orders Rig to eat, rather than get it something to eat. It's almost eerie..

There's a comment above mine that talks about how abusive relationships work, and I don't doubt for a minute that deadwood is definitely manipulating Rig; I'm just so intrigued that you've managed to shed light on such a desperate subject in a way that people can clearly see it. The conflict of deadwood caring about her, and at the same time seeing her as a means to its own satisfaction is absolutely stunning. It provokes so many thoughts and feelings.

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February 6th, 2019, 8:43 pm

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daaaaaaamn, nearly missed all the drama on this page xD thats what I get for being early all the time

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